MMGM: Is that Golden Retreivor here to gut you?

I’ve just wrapped up my two day seminar, listening to David Farland (aka David Wolverton) and it was awesome!  In fact, all of it–or, um, everything–was awesome!  Especially this pic, of the two of us.

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Very memorable, no?  I think it’s the best pic that’s not a pic but rather a pathetic stick drawing representation that I’ve ever seen, and I’m immensely proud of it.  All the same, I’ve made a note to do better, in future, at seizing the selfie moment.

Since you’re probably not quite so inspired by the pic as I am, I’ll share a few of my takeaways from the seminar.  My full notes sprawl over almost twenty computer pages, written in short hand.  But for those you’ll have to attend one of the seminars yourself and take your own. 😉

Insight the first: Be careful not to ‘over-hook’ your reader.  Just as you won’t get far catching delicious little trout if you dangle a wonker of a hook like this in front of their faces–

David Farland seminar report fish hook

–you also don’t need to shove your story’s hook in your reader’s face.  Better to entice them in with several small hooks that they’re less likely to notice.  My guess is this is especially true when writers are first trying to hook in wily ‘fish’ such as agents and editors, who have a keen and experienced eye for picking out over-sized or clunky opening hooks.

Insight the second: In a discussion of whether to use first person or third, Dave recommended (or stated a preference for) first person when writing middle grades.  This was because kids seem to have a harder time with the head-hops that often come with third person, and it may be easier for them to settle into the more limited and immediate first person pov.  This struck me as wise–and not just cause my novels tend toward first!

Insight the third: Look for ways to add emotional resonance to your book, and making sure it will be truly impactful on the reader.  There are several ways this can be done, such as using judicious details to fully flesh out scenes and truly transport the reader there, building in references so the reader recognizes subtle cultural connections between themselves and the characters, and stacking the emotional impact of scenes by revisiting turning points or moments of change.  All truly fantastic tools I can’t wait to use in my books!

Insight the final: We also discussed the dangers of golden retrievers.  The tricky part is that you don’t see the threat in them.  Do you?

David Farland seminar report golden retrievor

But in Hollywood, golden retrievers are people who approach authors and pretend to be some sweet aspiring director with great connections and lots of passion to turn your novel into a movie, but little cash.  They persuade the author to sell the option for their book for less than they ought–because how can you turn a golden retriever away?–and scamper back to Hollywood where they’ll pass that option along to whatever bigwig tightwad you would have never sold to for that small fee.

It all sounds rather more complicated than necessary, but the takeaway point is that you shouldn’t trust stray doggies if they hark from Hollywood!

Look for my spotlight of LUG soon, and check out Shannon’s blog for more Marvelous Middle Grade Monday reviews, interviews, posts and spotlights.  Happy MMGM!

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    Thanks for the seminar info. Great advice. Yeah – glad to read what he said about first person – I also tend to write in first person. I also posted today on MMGM, but forgot to email Shannon about it. Come check my post out if you get the chance.

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    Hi Suzanne, It was a pleasure to meet you at the workshop. Glad you made it home safely.

    As far as the first versus third POV discussion for MG readers, I’m not sure what the final answer is yet. David’s point was that it’s harder for MG readers to keep up with the head-hops in third person, but that would only apply to stories where there was more than one POV. If you have only one protagonist and the the author stays in that POV the whole story, then I don’t believe there’s any problem with third person. In fact, in David’s MG book, Of Mice and Magic, he uses third person, but he stays with the same protagonist the entire book (at least so far. I haven’t finished the book yet). And from everything I’ve read in the blogosphere, most editors and agents still suggest third person as being more typical for MG books. But that may be changing. Who knows.

    A year or so ago, I asked my daughter (now in 9th grade) and some of her (female) friends if they preferred first or third. They all leaned toward third. My daughter said that first person worked for her as long as she really identified and bonded with the main character, but she also pointed out that if she didn’t feel a strong connection, or if she didn’t care for the MC’s attitude and behavior, then having to stay so close to the MC tended to turn her off.

    Thanks for the workshop summary.

    Ken

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      It was great to meet you, too, Ken! I one hundred percent agree on first vs third–and in truth, I’ve written middle grades in both and will continue to do so. But, it’s definitely something to keep in mind…and I suspect was a factor in why an earlier middle grade of mine which constantly switched povs between the two main characters struggled to keep its audience. Your daughter makes a great point about the need to really, really like the pov character if told in first, too. She sounds like an excellent secret weapon for you! 😀

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    Great tips. I wrote my last story in close third person, where you basically stay with the MC throughout, almost like you are hovering over their shoulder. I found it a bit more freeing than first person while still letting the reader get an emotional connection. Would love to attend one of his workshops some day. Thanks for sharing.

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      Happy to, Greg! I like your summary of the advantages of third–I think we’d all agree their are trade-offs either way.

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    Fascinating stuff, Suzanne. Thanks so much for sharing these tips from the seminar, especially the idea of a series of small hooks instead of one large clunky one. As for the POV, I’ve written MG in both third-person close and more recently in first person. I would definitely avoid multiple POVs in MG. That would be hard to pull off (although some extremely talented authors have done it). I think both third-person close and first person work well in MG, but I also think the story has to decide for you.

    As a long-term bookseller, I found more third-person MG and more first-person YA, but that may be changing.

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    I wondered if it’s changing, too, Joanne! Don’t have the answer on that one. And I second that, in the end, most often the story will decide which pov should be used–and thank goodness they’re both an option!

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